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Carol Wayne's Mysterious Death
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a***@gmail.com
2015-12-02 17:45:09 UTC
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Was messing around with tv trivia and came across this. Seemed interesting,
thought I'd post it.
From http://www.tvparty.com
If you watched the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson during the Seventies, you
may remember sexy Carol Wayne. She was the big-busted, bubbly "Matinee Lady" of
the 'Tea Time Movies with Art Fern' sketches that began in 1971 and stayed
popular throughout the decade.
Carol Wayne was also a frequent guest on game shows like Celebrity Sweepstakes
and The Hollywood Squares, she also made quite a bit of money doing personal
appearances. She had the ability to make the most innocent remark seem like a
dirty joke with her little girl voice, wide "innocent" eyes and ultra-ample
bosom.
It was often joked that Carol Wayne would never drown with those large breasts
of hers - but ironically that's exactly how she did die. To this day, the exact
circumstances leading up to her death in 1985 remain a mystery.
Carol Wayne's troubles started in 1980 when Johnny Carson threatened to quit
his lucrative role as host of the popular 'Tonight' show. He demanded that NBC
cut the show from ninety-minutes to sixty. The network was having a very bad
year, and the nightly talk show was its biggest profit center at the time ('The
Cosby Show' changed that situation a few years later). NBC had no choice but to
reluctantly agree to Carson's demand. Freeing up this time led to the creation
of 'Late Night with David Letterman', which became another hot property for the
network and Carson Productions - so everyone came out a winner.
Well, everyone but Carol Wayne. The new sixty-minute format meant that Carson
had less time for skits starring familiar characters like "Aunt Blabby", "Floyd
R. Turbo", and "Art Fern". As a result, Carol Wayne's appearances on the
'Tonight' show became fewer and farther between.
Carol Wayne was no longer in demand for daytime game show appearances either,
that genre was dying on the vine. In 1980 she divorced her husband, bestselling
writer Burt Sugarman.
In 1984 a thin, pale Carol Wayne declared bankruptcy due in large part to a
cocaine and alcohol problem. It was said the entertainer was reduced to being
an occasional escort for wealthy businessmen in order to make a living.
According to published reports, Carol Wayne was on vacation in Santiago Bay,
Mexico with Los Angeles car salesman Edward Durston on January 10, 1985 when
(it has been reported) the couple had a argument about where they were going to
stay that evening (they were scheduled to fly back to Los Angeles the next
morning). Durston checked into a hotel and Wayne reportedly left to walk down
the beach (to cool off?). That was the last time anyone saw her alive. Local
fisherman Abel de Dios found her limp body floating in the shallow bay waters
three days later.
Mexican authorities wondered how Carol Wayne came to drown in waters four feet
deep, fully clothed. There were no cuts or abrasions, so a fall from the nearby
rocks was ruled out. The coroner stated that death occurred 3 - 4 days earlier
and the body tested negative for drugs and alcohol.
Suspicions were raised: Carol Wayne had to be identified by workers at the Las
Hadas resort where the couple had been staying earlier in the week. When locals
went to look for Wayne's traveling companion, they discovered that Edward
Durston checked out three days earlier - leaving Wayne's luggage at the airport
with a message that she would pick up her bags in the morning.
Carol Wayne could not swim, and reportedly did not like to go too near the
water. So how did she happen to be found dead in calm and shallow waters?
"Carol Wayne's death is unsolved, certainly.", the U.S. Consular William
LaCoque was quoted as saying in 1990, "But I don't think it was a drowning. A
drowning, yes, of course, but there is much more to it than that." What more,
we may never know.
As an aside, many readers may remember the LSD related death of Art
Linkletter's daughter Diane. She jumped (or fell) from a sixth floor apartment
building in 1969. Art Linkletter basically ended his successful television
career when he started crusading against drugs with a fervor that made it hard
for middle America to find the afternoon talk show host funny anymore. Not that
it means anything (and I'm absolutely sure it doesn't), but Diane Linkletter's
companion the night she was killed was named Edward Durston.
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Hehe. I hear Bush's lead over Gore has gotten way bigger!
Reading "The Mammoth Book of Nostradamus" by Damon Wilson
Curiouser and curiouser. I'd never heard of her till this AM, and looked to see who she was supposed to be. Well, that sure fills me in and two husbands, maybe not the best choices either. I'll be interested to see more.

As for Gore Bush gap--I think mentioned below your message--of what significance could it be as they are both Yale Skull and Bones men pledged to work for the SAME agenda. Elections are actually SELECTIONS. All a sham. Think pro wrestling. Big buddies just not in front of cameras. And GORE's Inconvenient Truth, don't be taking that at face value! Sued by scientists.
Lesmond
2015-12-02 17:57:51 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Was messing around with tv trivia and came across this. Seemed interesting,
thought I'd post it.
From http://www.tvparty.com
If you watched the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson during the Seventies, you
may remember sexy Carol Wayne. She was the big-busted, bubbly "Matinee Lady" of
the 'Tea Time Movies with Art Fern' sketches that began in 1971 and stayed
popular throughout the decade.
Carol Wayne was also a frequent guest on game shows like Celebrity Sweepstakes
and The Hollywood Squares, she also made quite a bit of money doing personal
appearances. She had the ability to make the most innocent remark seem like a
dirty joke with her little girl voice, wide "innocent" eyes and ultra-ample
bosom.
It was often joked that Carol Wayne would never drown with those large breasts
of hers - but ironically that's exactly how she did die. To this day, the exact
circumstances leading up to her death in 1985 remain a mystery.
Carol Wayne's troubles started in 1980 when Johnny Carson threatened to quit
his lucrative role as host of the popular 'Tonight' show. He demanded that NBC
cut the show from ninety-minutes to sixty. The network was having a very bad
year, and the nightly talk show was its biggest profit center at the time ('The
Cosby Show' changed that situation a few years later). NBC had no choice but to
reluctantly agree to Carson's demand. Freeing up this time led to the creation
of 'Late Night with David Letterman', which became another hot property for the
network and Carson Productions - so everyone came out a winner.
Well, everyone but Carol Wayne. The new sixty-minute format meant that Carson
had less time for skits starring familiar characters like "Aunt Blabby", "Floyd
R. Turbo", and "Art Fern". As a result, Carol Wayne's appearances on the
'Tonight' show became fewer and farther between.
Carol Wayne was no longer in demand for daytime game show appearances either,
that genre was dying on the vine. In 1980 she divorced her husband, bestselling
writer Burt Sugarman.
In 1984 a thin, pale Carol Wayne declared bankruptcy due in large part to a
cocaine and alcohol problem. It was said the entertainer was reduced to being
an occasional escort for wealthy businessmen in order to make a living.
According to published reports, Carol Wayne was on vacation in Santiago Bay,
Mexico with Los Angeles car salesman Edward Durston on January 10, 1985 when
(it has been reported) the couple had a argument about where they were going to
stay that evening (they were scheduled to fly back to Los Angeles the next
morning). Durston checked into a hotel and Wayne reportedly left to walk down
the beach (to cool off?). That was the last time anyone saw her alive. Local
fisherman Abel de Dios found her limp body floating in the shallow bay waters
three days later.
Mexican authorities wondered how Carol Wayne came to drown in waters four feet
deep, fully clothed. There were no cuts or abrasions, so a fall from the nearby
rocks was ruled out. The coroner stated that death occurred 3 - 4 days earlier
and the body tested negative for drugs and alcohol.
Suspicions were raised: Carol Wayne had to be identified by workers at the Las
Hadas resort where the couple had been staying earlier in the week. When locals
went to look for Wayne's traveling companion, they discovered that Edward
Durston checked out three days earlier - leaving Wayne's luggage at the airport
with a message that she would pick up her bags in the morning.
Carol Wayne could not swim, and reportedly did not like to go too near the
water. So how did she happen to be found dead in calm and shallow waters?
"Carol Wayne's death is unsolved, certainly.", the U.S. Consular William
LaCoque was quoted as saying in 1990, "But I don't think it was a drowning. A
drowning, yes, of course, but there is much more to it than that." What more,
we may never know.
As an aside, many readers may remember the LSD related death of Art
Linkletter's daughter Diane. She jumped (or fell) from a sixth floor apartment
building in 1969. Art Linkletter basically ended his successful television
career when he started crusading against drugs with a fervor that made it hard
for middle America to find the afternoon talk show host funny anymore. Not that
it means anything (and I'm absolutely sure it doesn't), but Diane Linkletter's
companion the night she was killed was named Edward Durston.
*********************************************
Hehe. I hear Bush's lead over Gore has gotten way bigger!
Reading "The Mammoth Book of Nostradamus" by Damon Wilson
Curiouser and curiouser. I'd never heard of her till this AM, and looked to see who she was supposed to be. Well, that sure fills me in and two husbands, maybe not the best choices either. I'll be interested to see more.
Were you even born when the post you are responding to was written?
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2015-12-02 21:50:26 UTC
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Curiouser and curiouser. I'd never heard of her till this AM, and looked to
see who she was supposed to be. Well, that sure fills me in and two
husbands, maybe not the best choices either. I'll be interested to see
more.
Were you even born when the post you are responding to was written?
He probably wasn't if he doesn't know who Carol Wayne is (was) but why
is that a problem.

Wayne was famous for no other reason than exhibiting her bosom, then
she'd get all defensive when talking about it. I remember one time
someone asked her what her measurement was, and she goes, "My business."

Dolly seems to have a much more fun attitude about it.
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My uncle was in a hippie band during the late 60's-early 70's, the time of
Diane Linkletter's drug and or mental problems. He says that there were
several very strange stories told after Diane's supposed suicide leap from
the window.
One story dealt with the way that Diane was trashed posthumously by the
hip (oxymoronic) press establishment, the sub-text of which was that her
suicide gave bad press to the growing drug culture and the
anti-establishment politico types which were involved with the drug culture
as one of many venues to advance their cause.
At the time Art Linkletter was at the peak of his popularity was a skilled
interviewer with comedic talents to rival Johnny Carson. Following his
daughters death when, like any father Art spoke out against the dangers of
drugs; he came out against drugs, in particular LSD, he was quickly
branded a right wing reactionary. In actuality, Art Linkletter was a very
mainstream moderate Baptist, occasionally given to making pro-civil rights
pro-social statements. He once said while interviewing the Russian
Cosmonaut Geirmon Titov (sp.) on the old afternoon Art Linkletter's House
Party TV Show, Linkletter made the sadly idealistic statement that he felt
that," if one day Russia became a little more like America and if America
became a little more like Russia hat the world might be able to realize
that he peace was possible."
Certainly not a right wing reactionary by today's standards. But this was
the sixties and according to my uncle, who is very bitter about the
so-called counter culture, in 68-69 if a middle aged man like Linkletter
made any kind of statement critical of the so-called youth movement, he
was regarded as the enemy. The media replays the 60's as peace, love and
flowers but my uncle says that there were a lot of nasty hate filled
student protest types of the variety that spat at poor draftee kids coming
back from Vietnam. In those days it was almost a rule that if someone
public was critical about drugs or youth that they would be attacked by the
hip press. This also applied to people who weren't middle-aged. Around this
time my uncle was playing in a band that opened a few times for a popular
power trio called Grand Funk Railroad who had made some anti-drug PSA's.
The result was a concerted effort by the hip press RS et al. to crush GFR.
One of the most interesting things my uncle said about the Diane Linkletter
situation was that this Ed Durston was heavily involved with the huge LA
drug scene and that there were some very influential Hollywood people who
were afraid that Diane Linkletter would start talking. Art always felt that
Diane's suicide was the result of an LSD flashback, a phenomenon that was
in those days poorly understood and poorly treated. Such was the ignorance
about drugs by most doctors at that time that many young people who
suffered overdoses were afraid to seek treatment for fear of being turned
in to the police by ER doctors. Many nightmarish LSD overdoses went all but
untreated or were given unfortunate mistreatment. Diane Linkletter's
situation is not unique, the trail of deaths associated with drugs in those
days was constant, but was largely downplayed by the hip media and treated
by the main media as a weirdly colorful curiosity. Hippie boys were
long-haired oddities and hippie girls were braless symbols of free love
available to be used and abused by anyone and everyone. We can only guess
what Dina Linkletter was thinking or what really happened to her because
the Hollywood community quickly closed ranks and went out of their way to
silence anyone who would talk, just as they did when Sharon Tate and her
friends were killed. Hollywood hip and not so hip went out of their way to
target all media attention on the Manson families freaky drug and sex
lifestyle instead of examining the corruption and guilty similarity the
Mansonites consciousness bore to the LA party scene at the time. Little
attention was paid to the enormous amount of drugs passing through the
Ceilo Drive estate or the regular drug and sex-fests that the little Polish
creep Polanksi orchestrated. Or to the fact that these were not the first
drug associated murders in the LA showbiz scene. What made Tate different
was that it was done by "outsiders," and that like the OJ murders, two of
the things Hollywood most values in the world were killed, a beautiful
blonde Shiksa and a young handsome Jewish man, Tate and Sebring. The death
of Diane Linkletter is often seen as a side-note to the sixties, an ironic
poke in the eye to a symbol of the 1950's.
So what do we know about Diane Linkletter's tragic end? Was she an LSD
casualty or was there a conspiracy which involved important people who
wanted her silenced, or was Diane but the (?)first in a string of women
victimized by the notorious Mr. Dunston? It is certainly a story well worth
investigating. If I ever make the move from NYC to LA I just might do that
Morgan.
Seriously, get a life. Why does the fact that your uncle was in a hippie band make him an expert on Diane Linkletter? And what exactly is a hippie band anyway?
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2018-01-11 23:16:01 UTC
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Was messing around with tv trivia and came across this. Seemed interesting,
thought I'd post it.
From http://www.tvparty.com
If you watched the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson during the Seventies, you
may remember sexy Carol Wayne. She was the big-busted, bubbly "Matinee Lady" of
the 'Tea Time Movies with Art Fern' sketches that began in 1971 and stayed
popular throughout the decade.
Carol Wayne was also a frequent guest on game shows like Celebrity Sweepstakes
and The Hollywood Squares, she also made quite a bit of money doing personal
appearances. She had the ability to make the most innocent remark seem like a
dirty joke with her little girl voice, wide "innocent" eyes and ultra-ample
bosom.
It was often joked that Carol Wayne would never drown with those large breasts
of hers - but ironically that's exactly how she did die. To this day, the exact
circumstances leading up to her death in 1985 remain a mystery.
Carol Wayne's troubles started in 1980 when Johnny Carson threatened to quit
his lucrative role as host of the popular 'Tonight' show. He demanded that NBC
cut the show from ninety-minutes to sixty. The network was having a very bad
year, and the nightly talk show was its biggest profit center at the time ('The
Cosby Show' changed that situation a few years later). NBC had no choice but to
reluctantly agree to Carson's demand. Freeing up this time led to the creation
of 'Late Night with David Letterman', which became another hot property for the
network and Carson Productions - so everyone came out a winner.
Well, everyone but Carol Wayne. The new sixty-minute format meant that Carson
had less time for skits starring familiar characters like "Aunt Blabby", "Floyd
R. Turbo", and "Art Fern". As a result, Carol Wayne's appearances on the
'Tonight' show became fewer and farther between.
Carol Wayne was no longer in demand for daytime game show appearances either,
that genre was dying on the vine. In 1980 she divorced her husband, bestselling
writer Burt Sugarman.
In 1984 a thin, pale Carol Wayne declared bankruptcy due in large part to a
cocaine and alcohol problem. It was said the entertainer was reduced to being
an occasional escort for wealthy businessmen in order to make a living.
According to published reports, Carol Wayne was on vacation in Santiago Bay,
Mexico with Los Angeles car salesman Edward Durston on January 10, 1985 when
(it has been reported) the couple had a argument about where they were going to
stay that evening (they were scheduled to fly back to Los Angeles the next
morning). Durston checked into a hotel and Wayne reportedly left to walk down
the beach (to cool off?). That was the last time anyone saw her alive. Local
fisherman Abel de Dios found her limp body floating in the shallow bay waters
three days later.
Mexican authorities wondered how Carol Wayne came to drown in waters four feet
deep, fully clothed. There were no cuts or abrasions, so a fall from the nearby
rocks was ruled out. The coroner stated that death occurred 3 - 4 days earlier
and the body tested negative for drugs and alcohol.
Suspicions were raised: Carol Wayne had to be identified by workers at the Las
Hadas resort where the couple had been staying earlier in the week. When locals
went to look for Wayne's traveling companion, they discovered that Edward
Durston checked out three days earlier - leaving Wayne's luggage at the airport
with a message that she would pick up her bags in the morning.
Carol Wayne could not swim, and reportedly did not like to go too near the
water. So how did she happen to be found dead in calm and shallow waters?
"Carol Wayne's death is unsolved, certainly.", the U.S. Consular William
LaCoque was quoted as saying in 1990, "But I don't think it was a drowning. A
drowning, yes, of course, but there is much more to it than that." What more,
we may never know.
As an aside, many readers may remember the LSD related death of Art
Linkletter's daughter Diane. She jumped (or fell) from a sixth floor apartment
building in 1969. Art Linkletter basically ended his successful television
career when he started crusading against drugs with a fervor that made it hard
for middle America to find the afternoon talk show host funny anymore. Not that
it means anything (and I'm absolutely sure it doesn't), but Diane Linkletter's
companion the night she was killed was named Edward Durston.
*********************************************
Hehe. I hear Bush's lead over Gore has gotten way bigger!
Reading "The Mammoth Book of Nostradamus" by Damon Wilson
I would like to know why you would say you were absolutely sure there was no connection. Two beautiful and vulnerable women DEAD around this guy... I would say he got away with Murder. And maybe more of it, if it was women less known... Shame.
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