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Calif. rep, Maxine Waters, says she will 'never ever forgive' Black men who vote for Trump
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2020-11-03 03:05:48 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.

"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."

While Black Republican voters have always been around, Black voters, especially
Black men, appear to be stepping closer to conservative principles. The stamp of
approval from some famous, wealthy rappers, such as Ice Cube, Lil Wayne and 50
Cent, has pushed talk of Black conservatism and Black class priorities back into
the national conversation.

Those individuals are only thinking about themselves and not the Black community
as a whole, Waters and Clyburn, D-S.C., say. A vote for Trump would be a vote
against themselves and their better interests, the politicians said in separate
interviews over the weekend.

Trump has engaged in divisiveness and racial dog-whistling to the right wing and
to white supremacists who are emboldened by his rhetoric, according to Waters.

It's imperative for Black voters to uplift former vice president Joe Biden and
vote Democratic as they usually do, Waters said, if Trump is to be ousted from
the White House.

But the hold that the Democratic Party has had over Black voters might be
loosening, making it harder for Biden to grasp victory.

Black women are more likely than Black men to vote Democrat, according to the
Pew Research Center. The gap between Black women and Black men identifying as
Democrats in 2018 and 2019 was the widest to date.

Waters said younger Black men lack a greater understanding about how systems
work in the country and the channels to break favoritism that largely excludes
the typical American, pointing to her and Rep. Nydia Velázquez, D-N.Y., blocking
big restaurants and hotels from taking up all the Paycheck Protection Program
money.

"I will never ever forgive them for undermining the possibility to help their
own people and their own communities," she said of young Black men choosing
Trump. "It is absolutely unconscionable. It is shameful."

Trump won 8% of the Black vote in 2016, and the threat of his gaining a point
more from Black men holds serious consequences for Black families, according to
Waters.

"They have a price to pay for years to come if they help put Trump over and help
get him elected. They will go down in history as having done the most despicable
thing to their families and to their communities and to their mothers and their
grandmothers," she said. "This man is about doing away with Social Security as
we know it. And their grandmothers who are sitting there waiting on those Social
Security checks every month or they couldn't eat. Doing away with Medicare, as
we know it, they will shamefully be accused of having attributed to the lack of
a quality life for the people they claim to love so much."

A Fox News poll projected that Trump could win as much as 14% of the Black vote,
a baffling figure that clashes with other poll projections, Clyburn said in an
interview with Fox News on Sunday.

"I can tell you this sincerely. I'm the father of three Black women. I am the
son of a Black woman," he said. "If any Black man can go in a polling place and
cast a vote for a man who referred to a Black woman as a dog on national
television, I'm going to have to pray for them."

Trump stirred accusations of racism in 2018 when he called former White House
staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman a dog after her ousting from his
administration. He has used the term often to describe people no longer in his
favor, but directing the insult to a Black woman appeared to have layers of
vitriol to some critics.

When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.

"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."



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KAG
2020-11-03 04:06:02 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.
"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
While Black Republican voters have always been around, Black voters, especially
Black men, appear to be stepping closer to conservative principles. The stamp of
approval from some famous, wealthy rappers, such as Ice Cube, Lil Wayne and 50
Cent, has pushed talk of Black conservatism and Black class priorities back into
the national conversation.
Those individuals are only thinking about themselves and not the Black community
as a whole, Waters and Clyburn, D-S.C., say. A vote for Trump would be a vote
against themselves and their better interests, the politicians said in separate
interviews over the weekend.
Trump has engaged in divisiveness and racial dog-whistling to the right wing and
to white supremacists who are emboldened by his rhetoric, according to Waters.
It's imperative for Black voters to uplift former vice president Joe Biden and
vote Democratic as they usually do, Waters said, if Trump is to be ousted from
the White House.
But the hold that the Democratic Party has had over Black voters might be
loosening, making it harder for Biden to grasp victory.
Black women are more likely than Black men to vote Democrat, according to the
Pew Research Center. The gap between Black women and Black men identifying as
Democrats in 2018 and 2019 was the widest to date.
Waters said younger Black men lack a greater understanding about how systems
work in the country and the channels to break favoritism that largely excludes
the typical American, pointing to her and Rep. Nydia Velázquez, D-N.Y., blocking
big restaurants and hotels from taking up all the Paycheck Protection Program
money.
"I will never ever forgive them for undermining the possibility to help their
own people and their own communities," she said of young Black men choosing
Trump. "It is absolutely unconscionable. It is shameful."
Trump won 8% of the Black vote in 2016, and the threat of his gaining a point
more from Black men holds serious consequences for Black families, according to
Waters.
"They have a price to pay for years to come if they help put Trump over and help
get him elected. They will go down in history as having done the most despicable
thing to their families and to their communities and to their mothers and their
grandmothers," she said. "This man is about doing away with Social Security as
we know it. And their grandmothers who are sitting there waiting on those Social
Security checks every month or they couldn't eat. Doing away with Medicare, as
we know it, they will shamefully be accused of having attributed to the lack of
a quality life for the people they claim to love so much."
A Fox News poll projected that Trump could win as much as 14% of the Black vote,
a baffling figure that clashes with other poll projections, Clyburn said in an
interview with Fox News on Sunday.
"I can tell you this sincerely. I'm the father of three Black women. I am the
son of a Black woman," he said. "If any Black man can go in a polling place and
cast a vote for a man who referred to a Black woman as a dog on national
television, I'm going to have to pray for them."
Trump stirred accusations of racism in 2018 when he called former White House
staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman a dog after her ousting from his
administration. He has used the term often to describe people no longer in his
favor, but directing the insult to a Black woman appeared to have layers of
vitriol to some critics.
When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.
"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."
Thatta girl. You tell them black folk how to act black Miss Waters. That's
just what they need to not get ahead in life and always be reliant on the
Democratic party's socialism and welfare. Keep them niggers enslaved, Maxine,
while you live in your multi-million dollar home out of your district in an
all-white neighborhood. You tells them niggas.
Miloch
2020-11-03 04:41:11 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.
When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.
"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."
Thatta girl. You tell them black folk how to act black Miss Waters. That's
just what they need to not get ahead in life and always be reliant on the
Democratic party's socialism and welfare. Keep them niggers enslaved, Maxine,
while you live in your multi-million dollar home out of your district in an
all-white neighborhood. You tells them niggas.
You do know doncha that her district which she lived in, was redrawn by a
Republican Legislature with the intention of making her home out of her
district...


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KAG
2020-11-03 04:51:11 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.
When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.
"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."
Thatta girl. You tell them black folk how to act black Miss Waters. That's
just what they need to not get ahead in life and always be reliant on the
Democratic party's socialism and welfare. Keep them niggers enslaved, Maxine,
while you live in your multi-million dollar home out of your district in an
all-white neighborhood. You tells them niggas.
You do know doncha that her district which she lived in, was redrawn by a
Republican Legislature with the intention of making her home out of her
district...
Immaterial to the fact that the Democratic party needs to keep the black man
down. Party of the Klan and all.

"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you
ain't black" - Sleepy Joe
Miloch
2020-11-03 05:14:30 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.
When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.
"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."
Thatta girl. You tell them black folk how to act black Miss Waters. That's
just what they need to not get ahead in life and always be reliant on the
Democratic party's socialism and welfare. Keep them niggers enslaved, Maxine,
while you live in your multi-million dollar home out of your district in an
all-white neighborhood. You tells them niggas.
You do know doncha that her district which she lived in, was redrawn by a
Republican Legislature with the intention of making her home out of her
district...
Immaterial to the fact that the Democratic party needs to keep the black man
down. Party of the Klan and all.
"Immaterial" is what your vote's gonna be tomorrow if ya vote for Trump....


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"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you
ain't black" - Sleepy Joe
Attila
2020-11-05 16:28:46 UTC
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WASHINGTON - Longtime Black Democratic congressional leaders Reps. Maxine Waters
and James Clyburn are troubled by the possibility that more Black voters could
reelect President Donald Trump for a second term.
When a Fox News anchor accused Clyburn of pushing the same rhetoric as Biden,
who received backlash this year for questioning a Black person's racial identity
if they don't vote for him, Clyburn clarified that his comment was not about
checking who is Black and who is not.
"Any man that calls one of my three daughters a dog, I will never vote for
them," Clyburn said. "All of us that I know are products or sons of Black women.
I don't stand for that kind of insult for my mothers, for my sisters or my
children."
Thatta girl. You tell them black folk how to act black Miss Waters. That's
just what they need to not get ahead in life and always be reliant on the
Democratic party's socialism and welfare. Keep them niggers enslaved, Maxine,
while you live in your multi-million dollar home out of your district in an
all-white neighborhood. You tells them niggas.
You do know doncha that her district which she lived in, was redrawn by a
Republican Legislature with the intention of making her home out of her
district...
Immaterial to the fact that the Democratic party needs to keep the black man
down. Party of the Klan and all.
"Immaterial" is what your vote's gonna be tomorrow if ya vote for Trump....
Post by KAG
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you
ain't black" - Sleepy Joe
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.

They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.

These people look at what they have and support those they trust to
continue the something for nothing policies. They line up in droves
for those who will promise to give them even more, whether it is free
medical care, college education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.

They don't care where the money is coming from as long as they get
their free stuff. Many if not most of them know nothing about
economics and care even less. All they care about is whether or not
they will get their free stuff this month and possibly more next
month. Most of them cannot understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government money, their
experience is that the government always has money, and they cannot
conceive of anything else.

They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue their free
stuff, and especially those who will add to it, and reflexively attack
with any weapon handy anyone they perceive as trying to end this
situation. False accusations, physical assaults, direct lies -
nothing is barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.

When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they can vote
into office anyone who supports their cause of more free stuff and
politically (and sometimes literally) destroy anyone who stands in
their way the result will be a combination of any or all of a war of
aggression to gain wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a day at
Disneyland.

At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and pull it
in after them.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.


There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Siri Cruise
2020-11-03 03:58:24 UTC
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You do know doncha that her district which she lived in, was redrawn by a
Republican Legislature with the intention of making her home out of her
district...
So is Maxine a 'race traitor'?

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kelown
2020-11-08 05:40:55 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
Attila
2020-11-08 07:17:14 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
The only thing Waters is interested in is whatever will get her
reelected. Facts are irrelevant.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.


There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Miloch
2020-11-08 15:52:58 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
The only thing Waters is interested in is whatever will get her
reelected. Facts are irrelevant.
That applies to all politicians you idiot!



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2020-11-09 15:35:39 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
The only thing Waters is interested in is whatever will get her
reelected. Facts are irrelevant.
That applies to all politicians you idiot!
Her more than most but I agree. This is the number one priority for
all of them, shortly ahead of how much money they can steal.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-08 17:16:04 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
KAG
2020-11-09 01:33:52 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Attila
2020-11-09 15:36:53 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.

They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.

These people look at what they have and support those they trust to
continue the something for nothing policies. They line up in droves
for those who will promise to give them even more, whether it is free
medical care, college education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
government provided income for all.

They don't care where the money is coming from as long as they get
their free stuff. Many if not most of them know nothing about
economics and care even less. All they care about is whether or not
they will get their free stuff this month and possibly more next
month. Most of them cannot understand or care that someone must pay
somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government money, their
experience is that the government always has money, and they cannot
conceive of anything else.

They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue their free
stuff, and especially those who will add to it, and reflexively attack
with any weapon handy anyone they perceive as trying to end this
situation. False accusations, physical assaults, direct lies -
nothing is barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
free handouts.

When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they can vote
into office anyone who supports their cause of more free stuff and
politically (and sometimes literally) destroy anyone who stands in
their way the result will be a combination of any or all of a war of
aggression to gain wealth to support the economy or a depression that
will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a day at
Disneyland.

At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and pull it
in after them.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
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welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.
blm

the dukester, American-American
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2020-11-11 06:32:04 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
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welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.
blm
the dukester, American-American
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
Siri Cruise
2020-11-11 09:53:35 UTC
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That's pure socialism.
It's easy to establish residency in California and register. You
had the opportunity to vote against her, and another opportunity
in 2022.
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That's pure socialism.
It's easy to establish residency in California and register. You
had the opportunity to vote against her, and another opportunity
in 2022.
Living in California would be too big a price to pay for anything. I
am about as far from there as I can get.
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-11 22:03:44 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
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welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.
blm
the dukester, American-American
Attila
2020-11-11 23:27:41 UTC
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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability focused.
They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A large number
of them are dependent on government programs of some type such as
Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.

Do you know what happens to the excess money collected? The amount
that is not needled for immediate payments ?

It is used to buy special issue treasury notes and the cash itself is
used off budget by the government. The theory is that when the cash
is needed for payouts the necessary amount of bonds will be redeemed
by the government.

However:

The government is already spending more than it takes in and must sell
treasury notes to make up the difference. If cash is needed to redeem
Social Security and Medicare special treasure notes there is no cash
to do this. Either more regular treasury notes must be issued to raise
the cash (thus increasing the deficit) or general taxes must raised.

Congress recognized this slush fund decades ago and realized it had a
pool of ready cash that did not come out of general tax revenue and
could be spent off the budget on anything Congress authorized. Of
course a politician never met a dollar he could not immediately spend,
especially if he did not need to account for it anywhere.
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welfare, food stamps, and dozens of other
programs that give income to those who have not earned it. Basically
income redistribution.
blm
the dukester, American-American
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
d***@cox.net
2020-11-12 23:30:22 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
Attila
2020-11-13 06:00:55 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-13 06:07:15 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
Attila
2020-11-13 14:37:34 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-13 16:23:13 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
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2020-11-13 19:38:34 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-14 16:59:27 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
Attila
2020-11-14 20:31:01 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.

Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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2020-11-15 22:50:39 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
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2020-11-16 05:26:00 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not. No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.

It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?

Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
the dukester, American-American
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2020-11-17 01:01:53 UTC
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
They have the biggest gun.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
Pure socialism.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
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the dukester, American-American
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
The federal government is full of socialist ideas.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
They have the biggest gun.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
Pure socialism.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
It's still the law. You can't waste it if they hold your money.
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
That's life.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
The federal government is full of socialist ideas.
I agree, but that can be fixed.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
They have the biggest gun.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
Pure socialism.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
It's still the law. You can't waste it if they hold your money.
The government can waste it and usually does,
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
That's life.
No, that is the law and laws can be changed. All of them.
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the dukester, American-American
the dukester, American-American
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
The federal government is full of socialist ideas.
I agree, but that can be fixed.
You voted biden in. Not a good move.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
They have the biggest gun.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
Pure socialism.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
It's still the law. You can't waste it if they hold your money.
The government can waste it and usually does,
But "on paper", it's still yours.
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
Your choice was handed to you by the 'rats.
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That's life.
No, that is the law and laws can be changed. All of them.
True, but you're a fighter of one.
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the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
The federal government is full of socialist ideas.
I agree, but that can be fixed.
You voted biden in. Not a good move.
I have never voted for him.
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No one even
pretended it was any kind of a tax to be used for the expense of
running a government.
They're into you for it now.
They have the biggest gun.
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It is purely social engineering and nothing less.
Sounds like a commie plot.
Pure socialism.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
It's still the law. You can't waste it if they hold your money.
The government can waste it and usually does,
But "on paper", it's still yours.
What does that mean? It is legal under our system of government? I
never said it wasn't.
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
Your choice was handed to you by the 'rats.
It wasn't a choice. There was no alternative.

Damn! You can take the most obvious and make it into something weird.
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That's life.
No, that is the law and laws can be changed. All of them.
True, but you're a fighter of one.
Every trip starts with a single step.
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the dukester, American-American
the dukester, American-American
the dukester, American-American
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
I am talking about normal people who work for a living not aberrations
like politicians and other such deviants.
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
the dukester, American-American
Of course I do. There is nothing voluntary about SS or Medicare.
But not free like food stamps and welfare. I contributed all my working life
starting with a high school summer job.
the dukester, American-American
As did I. The point (which you seem determined to ignore) is that I
had no choice. I could not take this money and invest it myself where
I chose to invest it but had it taken from me against my will.
You still don't. When you enter the work force, you pay your dues for a future
date.
My 'dues'? What 'dues'? I don't recall agreeing to anything like
this. I was simply informed that a certain percentage of my earnings
was to be taken from me whether I liked it or not.
From your paycheck. The US still hasn't authorized a worker to plan his own
financial retirement program.
As far as I am concerned it is not a function of government to be
involved in running retirement plans.
The federal government is full of socialist ideas.
I agree, but that can be fixed.
You voted biden in. Not a good move.
I have never voted for him.
Congrats. A good move.
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Could I have done better than what I have now? I don't know, but I
had no choice. It was the same as a tax - I had to pay it and had no
control over what was done with it.
Not until you reach the right age.
the dukester, American-American
It was my money. Why should I lose the benefit of earning it until I
reach any particular age?
It's da law.
As far as I am concerned it is an improper law.
It's still the law. You can't waste it if they hold your money.
The government can waste it and usually does,
But "on paper", it's still yours.
What does that mean? It is legal under our system of government? I
never said it wasn't.
Strangely enough, the government is using your money like it was theirs.>
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Why should I 'invest' it in my future this particular way? No one
asked me.
You don't get a choice. I thought you were grown up.
I never said I had a choice. That is my point - I had no choice.
Your choice was handed to you by the 'rats.
It wasn't a choice. There was no alternative.
Well, you're catching on.
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Damn! You can take the most obvious and make it into something weird.
So complain to 'ratbiden.
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That's life.
No, that is the law and laws can be changed. All of them.
True, but you're a fighter of one.
Every trip starts with a single step.
Then get busy.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
Of course you have a choice. You can collect welfare instead of working, just
like a Democrat.
Amen.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.

The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
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Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government. It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
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--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
And nothing you can do about it.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
And nothing you can do about it.
Except support those who would fix the problem.
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the dukester, American-American
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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
And nothing you can do about it.
Except support those who would fix the problem.
Then you better tell biden to renounce his election.
the dukester, American-American
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
And nothing you can do about it.
Except support those who would fix the problem.
Then you better tell biden to renounce his election.
I will go for that. But only you would act as if it is a viable
expectation.
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the dukester, American-American
--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

There are four despicable occupations:
Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
Pimps
Priests
Reporters

National Socialist American Worker's Party
formally known as the Democrat Party.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.
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Medicare, Social Security,
Those are ours.
That's pure socialism.
No, we contributed.
Not voluntarily. It is the same as a tax.
No, a savings account.
the dukester, American-American
It is involuntary. You don't have a choice.
But it's still your money being saved in a "government saving account" for later
in life.
The 'ratbama admin tried to call it an entitlement when it was truly a saving
account with a large lifetime donaton into the account..
the dukester, American-American
Suppose I don't want my money in a government savings account but
prefer to instead invest it as I choose? After all it's my money
earned by me.
Ask your tax man.
the dukester, American-American
Why? I would only get a reference to tax code and SS/Medicare laws.
The federal government established it. It's law.
the dukester, American-American
But not a law based upon the needs of the government.
It is a law
established because the government decided how people should invest
part of their earnings to provide a retirement income. There are many
ways to do this but the government decided it would force everyone to
do it a particular way because the individual could not be trusted to
make the best decisions for the common good rather than the best
decisions for himself as an individual.
Congrats. Now you've figured it out.
I did that before I ever graduated from college.
And nothing you can do about it.
Except support those who would fix the problem.
Then you better tell biden to renounce his election.
I will go for that. But only you would act as if it is a viable
expectation.
The Republicans are working on having the election invalidated due to illegal
vote blocking.
the dukester, American-American

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"I don't even know where any Blacks would be coming from that would be voting
for Trump," Waters, D-Calif., said in a Friday interview with SiriusXM's Joe
Madison. It just hurts me so bad to see Blacks talking about supporting Trump."
I voted for Biden. But there can be no denial that Trump increased the
employment numbers for black men. And Waters should know and understand
that.
She's a racist.
the dukester, American-American
All democrats are racist.
Amen.
the dukester, American-American
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