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Hollywood's Plan to Go Back to Work Is Full of Wishful Thinking
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Miloch
2020-06-03 01:47:20 UTC
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Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the pandemic
a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to normalize the word
“fetch.”

Previously, plans drafted for small productions emphasized an extremely minimal
“pod” approach to movie-making that would only work if you happen to be making
an indie movie with very few people, like The Blair Witch Project. But a new
22-page document endorsed by several major studios and networks, including HBO,
Amazon Studios, and Disney Television Studios, outlines a set of safety and
health guidelines for shooting projects, IndieWire reports.

The document from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers
includes recommendations for how productions can safely resume, with sections
dedicated to disinfecting costumes, creating virtual writer’s rooms,
discouraging shows from using live audiences, and avoiding physical contact as
best as possible. While the document aims to ensure reopened sets are safer, all
of this sounds nearly impossible when it comes to actually making a movie or
show as we know it.

The work of makeup artists and hairstylists, for example, “may not be possible
while maintaining physical distancing from others.” The document suggests that
“cast and crew in close proximity must wear a face mask and/or face shield at
all times and perform hand hygiene before and after the encounter,” but then on
the same page also reads “face coverings/masks may not be practical during many
of these activities”—those activities include performing, getting makeup done,
working with costumers, coordinators, etc. Actors are supposed to wear PPE at
all times, but the guidelines don’t extend to the actual filming of scenes. The
document also urges people to minimize scenes with close contact between
performers, such as amending scripts, and says that “stand-ins should wear face
coverings even if the performer they are standing in for may not.”

My question is, why on earth are stand-ins (who stand in for actors on set in
their place to make sure the camera and lighting set-up is correct) even
included in this imagined future of filmmaking during covid-19? I don’t see how
the extensive staffing that comes with making a movie or TV show staffed with
stylists, make-up artists, stand-ins, and caterers can continue in tandem with
suggestions to minimize contact as much as possible. The document also creates a
new on-set position of the “COVID-19 Compliance Officer,” who with “specialized
training and responsibility and authority for COVID-19 safety compliance and
enforcement will be in the workplace to address issues as they arise.” But
anyone worth their salt for that job would surely consider film or television
production too high-risk to continue normally, right?

Everything in the guideline basically amounts to “this is what should be done,
but it might not always be practical,” and the Alliance of Motion Picture and
Television Producers leave room for future edits as covid-19 changes. The truth
is any iteration of a plan for how Hollywood productions can resume during the
pandemic will have to acknowledge the risks for performers and crew because the
activity is inherently risky as is.





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super70s
2020-06-04 05:02:33 UTC
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Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the
pandemic a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to
normalize the word "fetch."
Previously, plans drafted for small productions emphasized an extremely
minimal "pod" approach to movie-making that would only work if you happen
to be making an indie movie with very few people, like The Blair Witch Project.
But a new 22-page document endorsed by several major studios and networks,
including HBO, Amazon Studios, and Disney Television Studios, outlines a set
of safety and health guidelines for shooting projects, IndieWire reports.
The document from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers
includes recommendations for how productions can safely resume, with
sections dedicated to disinfecting costumes, creating virtual writer's rooms,
discouraging shows from using live audiences, and avoiding physical contact
as best as possible. While the document aims to ensure reopened sets are
safer, all of this sounds nearly impossible when it comes to actually making a
movie or show as we know it.
The work of makeup artists and hairstylists, for example, "may not be
possible while maintaining physical distancing from others." The document
suggests that "cast and crew in close proximity must wear a face mask and/or
face shield at all times and perform hand hygiene before and after the
encounter," but then on the same page also reads "face coverings/masks may
not be practical during many of these activities"those activities include
performing, getting makeup done, working with costumers, coordinators, etc.
Actors are supposed to wear PPE at all times, but the guidelines don't extend
to the actual filming of scenes. The document also urges people to minimize
scenes with close contact between performers, such as amending scripts, and
says that "stand-ins should wear face coverings even if the performer they are
standing in for may not."
My question is, why on earth are stand-ins (who stand in for actors on set in
their place to make sure the camera and lighting set-up is correct) even
included in this imagined future of filmmaking during covid-19? I don't see
how the extensive staffing that comes with making a movie or TV show
staffed with stylists, make-up artists, stand-ins, and caterers can continue in
tandem with suggestions to minimize contact as much as possible. The
document also creates a new on-set position of the "COVID-19 Compliance
Officer," who with "specialized training and responsibility and authority for
COVID-19 safety compliance and enforcement will be in the workplace to
address issues as they arise." But anyone worth their salt for that job would
surely consider film or television production too high-risk to continue normally,
right?
Everything in the guideline basically amounts to "this is what should be
done, but it might not always be practical," and the Alliance of Motion Picture
and Television Producers leave room for future edits as covid-19 changes. The
truth is any iteration of a plan for how Hollywood productions can resume during
the pandemic will have to acknowledge the risks for performers and crew because
the activity is inherently risky as is.
Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Miloch
2020-06-04 05:29:18 UTC
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full-of-wishful-t-1843853225
Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the
pandemic a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to
normalize the word "fetch."
Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Good plan...unless you've already seen 'em all...heh! 114 years without a
bathroom break is a bit excessive.



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Hello Kiitty
2020-06-04 05:49:27 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Does that include porno movies?
Your Name
2020-06-04 06:05:26 UTC
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full-of-wishful-t-1843853225
Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the
pandemic a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to
normalize the word "fetch."
Previously, plans drafted for small productions emphasized an extremely
minimal "pod" approach to movie-making that would only work if you happen
to be making an indie movie with very few people, like The Blair Witch
Project. But a new 22-page document endorsed by several major studios
and networks, including HBO, Amazon Studios, and Disney Television
Studios, outlines a set of safety and health guidelines for shooting
projects, IndieWire reports.
The document from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers
includes recommendations for how productions can safely resume, with
sections dedicated to disinfecting costumes, creating virtual writer's
rooms, discouraging shows from using live audiences, and avoiding
physical contact as best as possible. While the document aims to ensure
reopened sets are safer, all of this sounds nearly impossible when it
comes to actually making a movie or show as we know it.
The work of makeup artists and hairstylists, for example, "may not be
possible while maintaining physical distancing from others." The document
suggests that "cast and crew in close proximity must wear a face mask and/or
face shield at all times and perform hand hygiene before and after the
encounter," but then on the same page also reads "face coverings/masks may
not be practical during many of these activities"those activities include
performing, getting makeup done, working with costumers, coordinators, etc.
Actors are supposed to wear PPE at all times, but the guidelines don't
extend to the actual filming of scenes. The document also urges people
to minimize scenes with close contact between performers, such as
amending scripts, and says that "stand-ins should wear face coverings
even if the performer they are standing in for may not."
My question is, why on earth are stand-ins (who stand in for actors on
set in their place to make sure the camera and lighting set-up is
correct) even
included in this imagined future of filmmaking during covid-19? I don't see
how the extensive staffing that comes with making a movie or TV show
staffed with stylists, make-up artists, stand-ins, and caterers can
continue in tandem with suggestions to minimize contact as much as
possible. The
document also creates a new on-set position of the "COVID-19 Compliance
Officer," who with "specialized training and responsibility and
authority for COVID-19 safety compliance and enforcement will be in the
workplace to
address issues as they arise." But anyone worth their salt for that job
would surely consider film or television production too high-risk to
continue normally, right?
Everything in the guideline basically amounts to "this is what should be
done, but it might not always be practical," and the Alliance of Motion
Picture and Television Producers leave room for future edits as
covid-19 changes. The truth is any iteration of a plan for how
Hollywood productions can resume during the pandemic will have to
acknowledge the risks for performers and crew because the activity is
inherently risky as is.
Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
James Cameron and some of his crew have just returned here to New
Zealand to continue working on the 'Avatar' movie sequels, but the
current international traveller rules here mean they have gone into
quarantine for two weeks first.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
2020-06-04 06:10:06 UTC
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full-of-wishful-t-1843853225
Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the
pandemic a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to
normalize the word "fetch."
Previously, plans drafted for small productions emphasized an extremely
minimal "pod" approach to movie-making that would only work if you happen
to be making an indie movie with very few people, like The Blair Witch
Project. But a new 22-page document endorsed by several major studios
and networks, including HBO, Amazon Studios, and Disney Television
Studios, outlines a set of safety and health guidelines for shooting
projects, IndieWire reports.
The document from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers
includes recommendations for how productions can safely resume, with
sections dedicated to disinfecting costumes, creating virtual writer's
rooms, discouraging shows from using live audiences, and avoiding
physical contact as best as possible. While the document aims to ensure
reopened sets are safer, all of this sounds nearly impossible when it
comes to actually making a movie or show as we know it.
The work of makeup artists and hairstylists, for example, "may not be
possible while maintaining physical distancing from others." The document
suggests that "cast and crew in close proximity must wear a face mask and/or
face shield at all times and perform hand hygiene before and after the
encounter," but then on the same page also reads "face coverings/masks may
not be practical during many of these activities"those activities include
performing, getting makeup done, working with costumers, coordinators, etc.
Actors are supposed to wear PPE at all times, but the guidelines don't
extend to the actual filming of scenes. The document also urges people
to minimize scenes with close contact between performers, such as
amending scripts, and says that "stand-ins should wear face coverings
even if the performer they are standing in for may not."
My question is, why on earth are stand-ins (who stand in for actors on
set in their place to make sure the camera and lighting set-up is
correct) even
included in this imagined future of filmmaking during covid-19? I don't see
how the extensive staffing that comes with making a movie or TV show
staffed with stylists, make-up artists, stand-ins, and caterers can
continue in tandem with suggestions to minimize contact as much as
possible. The
document also creates a new on-set position of the "COVID-19 Compliance
Officer," who with "specialized training and responsibility and
authority for COVID-19 safety compliance and enforcement will be in the
workplace to
address issues as they arise." But anyone worth their salt for that job
would surely consider film or television production too high-risk to
continue normally, right?
Everything in the guideline basically amounts to "this is what should be
done, but it might not always be practical," and the Alliance of Motion
Picture and Television Producers leave room for future edits as
covid-19 changes. The truth is any iteration of a plan for how
Hollywood productions can resume during the pandemic will have to
acknowledge the risks for performers and crew because the activity is
inherently risky as is.
Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
James Cameron and some of his crew have just returned here to New
Zealand to continue working on the 'Avatar' movie sequels, but the
current international traveller rules here mean they have gone into
quarantine for two weeks first.
Why do they need a real location for 'Avatar'?
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Your Name
2020-06-04 07:26:44 UTC
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Hollywood is trying to make movie and television production during the
pandemic a thing with the ferocity of Gretchen Weiners attempting to
normalize the word "fetch."
Previously, plans drafted for small productions emphasized an extremely
minimal "pod" approach to movie-making that would only work if you happen
to be making an indie movie with very few people, like The Blair Witch
Project. But a new 22-page document endorsed by several major studios
and networks, including HBO, Amazon Studios, and Disney Television
Studios, outlines a set of safety and health guidelines for shooting
projects, IndieWire reports.
The document from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers
includes recommendations for how productions can safely resume, with
sections dedicated to disinfecting costumes, creating virtual writer's
rooms, discouraging shows from using live audiences, and avoiding
physical contact as best as possible. While the document aims to ensure
reopened sets are safer, all of this sounds nearly impossible when it
comes to actually making a movie or show as we know it.
The work of makeup artists and hairstylists, for example, "may not be
possible while maintaining physical distancing from others." The document
suggests that "cast and crew in close proximity must wear a face mask and/or
face shield at all times and perform hand hygiene before and after the
encounter," but then on the same page also reads "face coverings/masks may
not be practical during many of these activities"those activities include
performing, getting makeup done, working with costumers, coordinators, etc.
Actors are supposed to wear PPE at all times, but the guidelines don't
extend to the actual filming of scenes. The document also urges people
to minimize scenes with close contact between performers, such as
amending scripts, and says that "stand-ins should wear face coverings
even if the performer they are standing in for may not."
My question is, why on earth are stand-ins (who stand in for actors on
set in their place to make sure the camera and lighting set-up is
correct) even
included in this imagined future of filmmaking during covid-19? I don't see
how the extensive staffing that comes with making a movie or TV show
staffed with stylists, make-up artists, stand-ins, and caterers can
continue in tandem with suggestions to minimize contact as much as
possible. The
document also creates a new on-set position of the "COVID-19 Compliance
Officer," who with "specialized training and responsibility and
authority for COVID-19 safety compliance and enforcement will be in the
workplace to
address issues as they arise." But anyone worth their salt for that job
would surely consider film or television production too high-risk to
continue normally, right?
Everything in the guideline basically amounts to "this is what should be
done, but it might not always be practical," and the Alliance of Motion
Picture and Television Producers leave room for future edits as
covid-19 changes. The truth is any iteration of a plan for how
Hollywood productions can resume during the pandemic will have to
acknowledge the risks for performers and crew because the activity is
inherently risky as is.
Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
James Cameron and some of his crew have just returned here to New
Zealand to continue working on the 'Avatar' movie sequels, but the
current international traveller rules here mean they have gone into
quarantine for two weeks first.
Why do they need a real location for 'Avatar'?
It's more likely to do with being cheaper to film here (thanks to
government subsidies) as well as having the Weta Workshop CGI experts.
BTR1701
2020-06-05 11:09:41 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
moviePig
2020-06-05 12:58:50 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
It's what we'd do with cattle, no doubt, and cattle would with us...
trotsky
2020-06-13 17:18:44 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
Every fucking thing you just said is a lie.
Miloch
2020-06-13 17:34:46 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
Ya...besides we need another installment of "Ace Ventura:Pet Detective" for all
the Jim Carrey fans.



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Your Name
2020-06-13 22:00:54 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
Ya...besides we need another installment of "Ace Ventura:Pet Detective"
for all the Jim Carrey fans.
His mother is his only fan. ;-)
Miloch
2020-06-13 22:48:33 UTC
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Would it be such a travesty if they just *quit* making movies, at least
for several years? I just googled and the consensus is an estimated
500,000 movies are currently in existence. So if each movie is 2 hrs.
long on average that means it would take around 114 years to view them
all.
Or we could just not tank a multi-billion-dollar industry and put tens
of thousands out of work because of a disease with a 99.2% survival rate.
Ya...besides we need another installment of "Ace Ventura:Pet Detective"
for all the Jim Carrey fans.
His mother is his only fan. ;-)
He's one of the few actors I can't stand...from "Living Color" on...'Ace
Ventura' was made fo $15M and did over $107M worldwide...and elevated Carrey
from unknown ass-hole to world renown ass-hole.



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Flasherly
2020-06-14 05:54:05 UTC
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ass-hole to world renown ass-hole.
I only needed him for _The Man on the Moon_: Carrey explains, in
simple words, what promoting a distinctive smell of asshole is all
about.

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"I fake it so real I am beyond fake...someday you will ache like I
ache." -Courtney Love of Hole (among a few early USENET celebrities
who used to hang-out).

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2020-06-04 19:07:38 UTC
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