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New Epstein Mystery: How Did 4chan Get The Scoop?
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2019-08-15 08:17:48 UTC
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4chan-get-scoop/

Or did they at all? BuzzFeed reports that the FDNY has opened a “review”
as to whether one of the first responders to Jeffrey Epstein’s cell took
some time out to post the news of his suicide on 4chan. At issue is a
posting timestamped nearly 40 minutes before the first media report went
out on Twitter from an ABC reporter.

That assumes that someone didn’t figure out how to troll 4chan with a
backdated post, of course, although the sequence seems to argue against
that possibility. Whoever posted the initial report kept interacting with
users in real time:

Less than 40 minutes before ABC News first reported Epstein’s death on
Twitter, someone posted still-unverified details on 4chan, the anonymous
message board popular with far-right trolls and white nationalists.

“[D]ont ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging,
cardiac arrest. Screencap this,” read the post, which was published at
8:16 AM alongside an image of Pepe, the green frog that has become a
mascot for the right-wing internet trolls.

After publishing the post, other 4chan users egged on the author. When
they said they didn’t believe that the information was true, the original
poster added more information to the discussion thread, including a
detailed breakdown of the procedures allegedly used to resuscitate
Epstein, which suggest the poster may have been a first responder, medical
worker, or otherwise privy to details about efforts to resuscitate the
disgraced financier.

How accurate was that information? The FDNY isn’t saying, according to
BuzzFeed. The stakes might be high if this turns out to be on the level,
though. The firefighters union president noted in an e-mail to Buzzfeed
that releasing such information would violate HIPAA regulations and result
in “discipline, suspensions, civil penalties, etc.”

Frankly, that makes this 4chan account look even more suspicious, though.
Why would a first responder risk all that for an anonymous 4chan post, of
all things? Why not sell it to TMZ or the National Enquirer, or just leak
it out to a local reporter? It sounds suspicious enough to warrant some
skepticism about those timestamps and their accuracy. It sounds like a
publicity stunt or a practical joke.

At the moment, there isn’t any other independent reporting on this,
although BuzzFeed has confirmed that the FDNY is taking this seriously.
There is still plenty of other questionable reporting going on in the
meantime. For instance, here’s a CBS report that was initially headlined,
“Shrieking heard from Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell the morning he died.”
That suggests that Epstein’s “suicide” might not have been his idea. When
you read the article, though, the “shrieking” seems to refer to the guards
who discovered him, which isn’t exactly news:



On the morning of Jeffrey Epstein’s death there was shouting and shrieking
from his jail cell, a source familiar with the situation told CBS News.
Corrections officers attempted to revive him while saying “breathe,
Epstein, breathe.”

Maybe everyone needs to take a deep breath and slow down, writes the
Washington Post’s Margaret Sullivan. Don’t get your information on
Twitter, stop being a “news junkie,” and ignore early reports to wait for
fully confirmed details:

What we have here is an argument for what seems impossible in 2019: slow
journalism.

That’s not a joke, or an unwitting oxymoron: It’s a real thing, modeled
after the 30-year-old “slow food” movement.

“We need to decide for ourselves what so-called news is worth our while,
not just allow ourselves to be subjected to an endless barrage of
unfiltered media assaults,” wrote Peter Laufer, a University of Oregon
professor and author of “Slow News: A Manifesto for the Critical News
Consumer.”

We’re in danger, in the former NBC correspondent’s view, “of missing the
story because of the noise.” (Doyle McManus sang the praises of slow
journalism recently in a Los Angeles Times column unrelated to Epstein.)

Laufer’s book (published in ancient times: 2011) advises such solid ideas
as: “Trust accuracy over time,” “Know your sources,” and “Don’t become a
news junkie.”

All of this is good advice, and perhaps a bit against interest, too. After
all, the Washington Post and other media outlets make their livings off of
“news junkies.” In fact, they contribute to the pool of “media assaults,”
especially in breaking news stories. However, this might be advice better
given to the media outlets more than their consumers, since we consumers
tend to get a lot of the inaccuracies from those supposedly reliable
sources and not necessarily the 4chans of the world. And if BuzzFeed’s
correct, the 4chan source might have been entirely accurate.

To be fair, Sullivan does aim this at her industry colleagues as well as
consumers. The bottom line is that it’s better to get it right than first.
And if media outlets focused on that rather than on misleading headlines
about “shrieking,” for one example, perhaps Sullivan’s warning would be
less necessary.
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BeamMeUpScotty
2019-08-15 17:04:30 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/08/13/new-epstein-mystery-
4chan-get-scoop/
Or did they at all? BuzzFeed reports that the FDNY has opened a “review”
as to whether one of the first responders to Jeffrey Epstein’s cell took
some time out to post the news of his suicide on 4chan. At issue is a
posting timestamped nearly 40 minutes before the first media report went
out on Twitter from an ABC reporter.
That assumes that someone didn’t figure out how to troll 4chan with a
backdated post, of course, although the sequence seems to argue against
that possibility. Whoever posted the initial report kept interacting with
Less than 40 minutes before ABC News first reported Epstein’s death on
Twitter, someone posted still-unverified details on 4chan, the anonymous
message board popular with far-right trolls and white nationalists.
“[D]ont ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging,
cardiac arrest. Screencap this,” read the post, which was published at
8:16 AM alongside an image of Pepe, the green frog that has become a
mascot for the right-wing internet trolls.
After publishing the post, other 4chan users egged on the author. When
they said they didn’t believe that the information was true, the original
poster added more information to the discussion thread, including a
detailed breakdown of the procedures allegedly used to resuscitate
Epstein, which suggest the poster may have been a first responder, medical
worker, or otherwise privy to details about efforts to resuscitate the
disgraced financier.
It's NOT a secret it's a public crime.... and getting information about
it to the public wasn't a crime, it's news.


Why does government assume that they're in charge of all knowledge?
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super70s
2019-08-16 15:15:58 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
It's NOT a secret it's a public crime.... and getting information about
it to the public wasn't a crime, it's news.
Why does government assume that they're in charge of all knowledge?
Koo-Koo for Cocoa Puffs is upset because the first responder didn't
claim he saw Clinton leaving the building.
Stephen Hall
2019-08-25 11:31:33 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
4chan, the anonymous
message board popular with far-right trolls and white nationalists
What?
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
image of Pepe, the green frog that has become a
mascot for the right-wing internet trolls.
What?!..
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